Speak Out: Who Won the Presidential Debate?

Jason Atkinson October 11, 2012 at 03:46 pm

Flagged, off topic.

Jason Atkinson October 11, 2012 at 03:46 pm

Flagged, off topic.

Jason Atkinson October 11, 2012 at 03:46 pm

I'll just flag all of the "off-topic" comments as inappropriate, maybe they can control it that way :)

Locally Involved October 11, 2012 at 03:55 pm

@Cheryl - just stop engaging DoJo - he and "WND" one of ones who has promulgated birtherism along with his evangelical wife, Elizabeth - are all nut jobs. Trying to have a rational, logical, debate with a crazy person is fruitless. Let DoJo rant, it makes him feel good. We may one day find him on a street corner with his tinfoil hat.
In the meantime, see you on other boards! Get out and enjoy the beautiful fall weather instead!

Don Joy October 11, 2012 at 04:09 pm

The irony is that Obama is not even biologically related to them. His biological father was Soviet agent Frank Marshall Davis.

Mike October 11, 2012 at 04:11 pm

gotcha!

Don Joy October 11, 2012 at 04:41 pm

I notice that nobody seemed to object when the lefties on here were posting endless links about Romney's alleged conduct as a bishop in the Mormon church, etc.
My posts about the lies and chicanery of Obama and his administration are definitely on-topic--after the debate, the main response of democrats has been alleging that "Romney lied." My thrust here has been that if the outcome of the debate is to examine the credibility of the candidates, then, here we are. The truth to the Left is like daylight to vampires.

Don Joy October 11, 2012 at 07:00 pm

The best political ad I have ever seen, ever:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnX7TNFIELg

Jason Atkinson October 11, 2012 at 07:27 pm

The only links I've seen posted (a.k.a. spamming) were by you. Honestly, it seems no one here is interested in anything remotely resembling the truth. It's all about Romney's taxes and where Obama was born. neither have anything whatsoever to do with how they run the country (just like GWBs inability to speak clearly, or Clinton's philandering were irrelevant as well). In the end, almost zero comments on this thread are "on topic".

Don Joy October 11, 2012 at 07:37 pm

Jason, you simply didn't look. The links I described are there. This entire thread has been an orgy of leftist links being posted, in fact.

Jonathan Erickson October 11, 2012 at 08:06 pm

does the flag button work?

Beth Lawton (Editor) October 11, 2012 at 08:08 pm

Hi everyone,
We've had a few comments devolve into personal attacks. We'll ask this one final time to keep the personal attacks out of the comment stream, or we'll be shutting down the conversation. Thanks, Beth Lawton Senior Regional Editor

Locally Involved October 11, 2012 at 08:11 pm

Jason - I think Patch can only delete or censor a poster if they use foul or racist language. Unfortunately, can't flag crazy. Best to ignore DoJo - he's right amygdala is max-ed out on grey matter (fear center, high level of correlation with schizophrenia and paranoia).

CD October 11, 2012 at 08:22 pm

I do believe that Beth Lawton just asked everyone to stay away from the personal attacks and not three minutes later you are calling names again. I do not feel people have to rude and insulting to make their point and you have been through this entire thread.

Cheryl Darby October 11, 2012 at 08:32 pm

CD, it's interesting you now object to name calling. Mr. Joy has bern engaging in it for some time. Where were you then?

Jonathan Erickson October 11, 2012 at 08:38 pm

close it down please. i am bored with the same commenters. did she just call dj crazy. i think thats name calling. omg

Jason Atkinson October 11, 2012 at 08:51 pm

How about on topic? general political banter and arguments were not the intent of this thread either, but merely a discussion on the debate itself. It overruns the recent comments section on the homepage every time you guys put one of these up, because commenters are allowed to run way off the rails...

Don Joy October 11, 2012 at 08:56 pm

I'm okay with a truce as far as this thread goes. I see no real need to continue posting here, unless someone posts something that I find needs to be refuted. I'm looking forward to tonight's VP debate!

Watts October 12, 2012 at 04:41 am

Biden nailed it! The amount of facts that guy holds in his head on all issues is amazing. On the other hand you had Paul Ryan who, again when pressed for details, danced around their mystery plan. Some nonsense about proving the framework and that is enough. I don't know if I would necessarily buy a house that only had the framework.

Debbie Walters Staley October 12, 2012 at 05:17 am

LOL yeah, he has facts in his head....if they were all true facts! For some people it's easy to remember lies. Besides, did you see he had paper in front of him? lol I don't know how many times Romney or Ryan have to explain the basis of their plan and then say that they can't give exact facts because they want to sit with Congress and get ideas and work on their plans with others. People want exact plans and then say that they are full of it or are just saying what the people want to hear. So they aren't throwing crap out at everyone with a bunch of promises that they might not be able to keep!! They have said what their plan is to help our country....should they throw out a bunch of lies like Obama has been doing for the past 4 years? They know what they want to do, they also know that they have to work with everyone else to make that happen!!!!

Watts October 12, 2012 at 03:40 pm

Looks like the fact checking has Biden a heck of a lot more truthful than Ryan:
http://factcheck.org/2012/10/veep-debate-violations/

Locally Involved October 12, 2012 at 03:57 pm

That does seem to be a recurring theme with the Romney/Ryan ticket. I have great concerns with the lack of transparency with that ticket. At least I know what the strengths and weaknesses of the Obama/Biden ticket is - I know what I'm getting. With the Romney/Ryan ticket - their 'facts' just don't add up, so I don't have any idea what will happen if they get in office. So, gotta go with what I know.

Jonathan Erickson October 12, 2012 at 06:14 pm

factcheck org leans left as we allknow

Jonathan Erickson October 12, 2012 at 06:16 pm

framework means working with the house and the senate in order to get a bipartisan result with all inputs being considered. your welcome watts

Watts October 12, 2012 at 06:23 pm

Oh yeah, because I am the only American wondering what the details are, because nothing that they say adds up. So guess what, your presumption that I would ever thank you for contributing absolutely nothing of value, was completely wrong. Are you sure that you aren't actually Paul Ryan using a fake name on here?

Watts October 12, 2012 at 06:25 pm

Nobody knows that, but if you personally believe it, then here is the politifact review, also showing Biden to have been far more truthful than Ryan:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/oct/11/fact-checking-vice-presidential-debate-between-joe/ Also, one particular lie that I was glad to see clarified was this one statement that every Romney pundit (along with Romney and Ryan, themselves) keeps repeating and that is that Obama went on TV instead of meeting with Netanyahu when they were in the same city on the same day. Here is the reality check of that statement: "Obama was in the city on Monday and Tuesday. He taped the interview with The View on Monday and addressed the U.N. on Tuesday. Wednesday was the Jewish holiday of Yom Kippur. Netanyahu planned to be in New York on Thursday and Friday. ...Netanyahu spoke to the U.N. on Thursday, Sept. 27..."

Jonathan Erickson October 12, 2012 at 07:21 pm

and you are just as gracious as biden or are you biden. god couldn't arrange to meet with the leader of israel anytime after thursday or friday, where was oblameboy then raising money in california? i don't know you tell me factboy. hows that new hapshire prediction of yours working today, oh gosh it must be right leaning poll takers!!!

Locally Involved October 17, 2012 at 09:46 pm

Obama must have had the upper hand and won last night's debate. Placing all the opinions aside - just look at the news coverage. All conservative media appears to be pouncing on the moderator or audience as being 'biased'. Must be Team Romney is deflecting attention from a tough night for its man.

Jody October 18, 2012 at 12:01 am

They are complaining because of her inappropriate inerference that seemed to come to the rescue of Obama. It was bad form on her part and worth complaining about, but took nothing away from Romney; he did great.

Jaki Demarest October 23, 2012 at 03:03 am

A clear victory on substance for Obama. Shades of the Cheney/Lieberman debate, in which Lieberman ceded entirely too much ground to Cheney by agreeing with him on everything.