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All Rail Parties Focused on Loudoun's Vote

At Dulles Corridor Rail Association meeting, the most important update was the one coming from Loudoun Board of Supervisors on July 3.

The Dulles Corridor Rail Association's semi-annual meeting is usually one for partners to talk about construction progress, staying on budget and the day 18 months from now when Metrorail will stop in Tysons Corner and in Reston.

The decision from Loudoun County whether to continue as a partner could change the future of Phase 2 of the Silver Line, which will run from Reston's Wiehle Avenue to Dulles International Airport and into Loudoun County.

"It is absolutely crunch time," Ashburn Supervisor Ralph Buona (R) said. "We have got to . There will be more public input on Monday, and we will vote first thing Tuesday.

"I am cautiously optimistic," he said. "I would say we are 4-3 so far with two in play. We are doing everything we can to bring them over the finish line."

Gov. Bob McDonnell (R) said at the meeting he is "completely supportive" of rail to Dulles despite the project being marred by a Project Labor Agreement (which has since been dropped), protests over predicted high tolls on the Dulles Toll Road, and Richmond's reluctance to find more available funds. 

"I am here to say you cannot always believe everything you read," McDonnell said. "This is something we have to do. This is one of the most — if not the most — important infrastructure projects in the country. It is also one of the most expensive. Obviously, everyone who has a vote is making sure they are a good steward of the taxpayer money. ... We'll find a way to make sure this gets done in a prudent and economical way that honors the taxpayers."

Virginia Secretary of Transportation Sean Connaughton said he is literally taking it one day at a time.

"We've got to look at this in stages," he said. "It has been a multiyear effort to get us to this point. We've got to get past the Loudoun County vote. Before the project can move forward, there has to be confidence in the government, we have to do everything we can to lower the tolls to the lowest amount possible. It is going to be difficult to get additional money out of Richmond until we do that."

Pat Nowakowski, executive director of the Dulles Metrorail Project, gave the crowd an update on Phase 1 construction. He said Phase 1 is on track to be on time and slightly over budget but within the $2.9 billion mark.

He said track and structures are in place and it is down to station electrical work. The last two aerial spans at Tysons Corner should be put in place in the next few weeks, he said.

Nowakowski is also waiting for Loudoun's vote on Phase 2.

"We are completing preliminary engineering," he said. "We are ready to go."

Candie June 27, 2012 at 02:31 PM
"YES", For Metro Rail All The Way" to Loudoun County.
Tax Pig June 27, 2012 at 02:33 PM
Way to deliver with the lobbying push governor... right on cue. I do hope the Gov. made it clear what the financial ties are between himself and various businesses and individuals who may have direct financial ties to  the Big Dulles Rail Spendfest. Generous supporters of Gov Bob appear to also be present in online financial records pertaining to rail station developers.  http://www.leesburgtoday.com/opinion/letters/article_1a05fb9a-a279-11e1-af48-0019bb2963f4.html  Links from VPAP http://www.vpap.org/committees/profile/money_in_donors/2936http://www.vpap.org/donors/profile/money_out_details/134392?committee_id=2936           http://www.vpap.org/candidates/profile/money_in_details/5666?donor_id=134392&end_year=2012&filing_period=all&filter_schedule=all&industry=all&limit=50&locality=all&lookup_type=year&max_years=15&order=amount&start_year=2006&submenus=cands_state&zip_code=all     The fact is that Loudoun will reap massive financial benefits, $600 million through 2040 if they opt out go to: http://loudounoptout.blogspot.com/2012/06/600-million-bonus-if-loudoun-opts-out.html
Jerry Kruger June 27, 2012 at 03:09 PM
I understand that there is the possibility of people being tied to the rails by theiving thugs. This presents a precarious problem, as people can die. Yes, I do think that metrosexual will utilize this service, an unthinkable circumstance, but I also believe it also presents a danger to the public by giving hoolems the ability to utilize the rail for killing their misfortunate friends. But even more revolting, the metro would give theives a getaway route via pump car into the suburbs, where they would subsequently stalk strangers.
Bob Bruhns June 27, 2012 at 03:13 PM
Governor McDonnell hopes to be Vice President, and evidently something about supporting this rail ripoff might help him in that quest. The fact that he didn't and doesn't care that this thing costs two times what it should cost, tells me all I need to know. With a billion and a half dollars of overcharge in this unnecessary Phase II project, it's pretty obvious what's going on. Only a certain few individual politicians have any integrity, and they are the ones who will stand against this regional robbery. The rest are selling out for some of that billion and a half of overcharge. I only hope (1) that the credit rating agencies have been watching, and are about to speak about how bad this deal is, and (2) that the FBI has been conducting an undercover investigation on this deal, and is about to make arrests.
Bob Bruhns June 27, 2012 at 03:48 PM
Two of Tax Pig's links (above) got stuck together and don't work. Here they are again. Links from VPAP http://www.vpap.org/committees/profile/money_in_donors/2936 http://www.vpap.org/donors/profile/money_out_details/134392?committee_id=2936 http://www.vpap.org/candidates/profile/money_in_details/5666?donor_id=134392&end_year=2012&filing_period=all&filter_schedule=all&industry=all&limit=50&locality=all&lookup_type=year&max_years=15&order=amount&start_year=2006&submenus=cands_state&zip_code=all
Bob Bruhns June 27, 2012 at 03:54 PM
Tax Pig is just referencing further detail that can't fit into 1500 character posts here. Get over it.
Dave June 27, 2012 at 04:01 PM
The "$1.5 billion" figure is FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) being pushed by the anti-tax faction. The figure that Loudoun would actually be responsible for is closer to $250 million and a chunk of operational costs that are yet to be determined/negotiated. And the Toll Road fees will still be raised to the same level if not more by an 'opt out', with *zero* benefit to Loudoun tax base or commuters. There is more "spin" being put on these figures by Tax Pix and company than on a Dead or Alive record. Costs will be far more than offset by a shift to a commercial tax base and increased property values (and eventually lower property taxes as a result). YES TO METRO!
Dave June 27, 2012 at 04:07 PM
Rachel - not exactly. It's more likely that Phase 2 will be built eventually to Dulles anyways by MWAA and the remaining parties. However, there will be no commuter parking at Dulles, and if commuter parking is built at 28, it likely won't be nearly enough - and you'll need a Springfield-style 'mixing bowl' project to handle the traffic. The raises on the toll road are going to happen one way or another (the moment the decision was made to fund Phase I primarily through tolls and the ground was broken on that project). Might as well get benefit out of it... actually, it is likely that Loudoun commuters will have to pay even more for the toll road WITHOUT phase 2 going all the way out to make up the difference.
T-Bird June 27, 2012 at 04:25 PM
I'm over it Bob. It's where I usually like to be when it's a giant heaping pile of crap. You and Tax Pig can go have your little circle jerk, while us adults actually try and do something good for the community.
BCan June 27, 2012 at 04:51 PM
T-Bird, I laughed soooo hard when I read that! That is too much!
Bob Bruhns June 27, 2012 at 05:37 PM
One thing adults learn is to resist spending money they don't have - especially for things that cost far more than they should, for things that lose additional money over time, and for things they don't need.
Bob Bruhns June 27, 2012 at 05:40 PM
This region has good reason to fear a billion and a half dollars of overcharge for this rail extension. It is entirely unnecessary, and it will cause no end of trouble. Just say NO!!!
Skip Endale June 27, 2012 at 09:17 PM
One thing is for certain, I would not open a link to any external web site without knowing what me and my friend the computadore would get into.
Rob Jackson June 27, 2012 at 09:24 PM
A key issue that needs an answer is how many of the Orange Line's 21 train slots (maximum and in each direction) will be transferred to the Silver Line? How many passengers can the Silver Line carry? It's mind boggling to me that people can support or oppose the Silver Line's extension without knowing the facts.
Tax Pig June 27, 2012 at 10:16 PM
Ken Reid explains how Dulles Rail is bad for Loudoun and Leesburg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvbt8mKDozA&feature=autoshare
The Baconator June 28, 2012 at 01:32 AM
No amount af fake facts or fear tactics is goint to sway 80 percent of the peoples opinion tax pig. The politicians are going to hold out and cave at the last minute, because they know what the people want. The people want Metro, and they are sick of waiting and we are sick of excuses.
Victoria Glenn June 28, 2012 at 01:58 AM
The rail is so important to Loudoun..it is the "most important infrastructure in the country" Don't let this opportunity pass us by...BOS vote YES to metro!
Tammi Petrine June 28, 2012 at 02:37 AM
BINGO!!! Thanks, Mr. Jackson. We ALL need more information about the Metro's capacity. For the amount of benefit for a few, the price tag of this project is way too expensive. The original Metro design of only one track each way throughout the whole system has created a nightmare of inefficiencies. I would love to see Metro to Dulles but not at this price (Bob Bruhns has nailed it: the second phase of the Silver Line should be much cheaper than the curving, elevated first phase through Tysons but no one "OFFICIAL" has ever answered his questions with any salient answers as to why a primarily straight, on-grade leg of the same length cost the same price!!! What's up with that???) Furthermore, the outrageous tolls will seriously harm the corridor communities of Reston and Herndon. Doesn't anyone get this??? And the tolls are scheduled to double on Jan. 1st of 2013 to $4.50 ONE WAY to Tysons.
Chris Lopresti June 28, 2012 at 03:44 AM
Loudoun needs this. We can't let fear and those who propogate it stand in our way. Bring us the Metro!
John June 28, 2012 at 12:42 PM
Pig and Bob Unfortunately you manipulate and lie. So even if your points have merit people discount them bc of the way u handle yourselves. Pig - still waiting on response to your reason for a classless act om Supervisor Volpr at her church. Also please state the thought process on flyering the park/ride lot with FALSE facts. Bob has said your Group is not sure who did that - but people have evidence u did. So instead comment to this board on this and enlighten us on your warped thoughts.
T-Bird June 28, 2012 at 01:26 PM
John, I have a simple answer. They are both developmentally challenged people starved for the attention their alchoholic daddys didn't give them. They have no facts, and they don't really care if the rail is built or not. And every flyer and every hit on their blog satisfies their childlike urge for attention. That is all it is. In fact, that's all most of these "no" people are. They just want to feel like they're doing something, even if it is counterproductive.
Karen Goff June 28, 2012 at 01:46 PM
T bird - several of your posts have been removed for violating our terms of service. Let's keep it civil.
Mark Carolla June 28, 2012 at 01:51 PM
Thank you Karen!
T-Bird June 28, 2012 at 02:14 PM
Oh, I see. So whining and compulsive lying is ok. Posting multiple links to external sites is ok. Spamming this comment section with both is ok. But calling someone what they are is not? I see.
Mark Carolla June 28, 2012 at 02:18 PM
Simple Fact: The Dulles Toll Road is way past its planned capacity. There is no room for future growth no matter what the tolls....takes 1 hr fromHerndon to the Beltway at times. Northern Virginia is a metropolitan area & needs a metropolitan area's transportation infrastructure which we don't have. Every other major metropolitan area on the Eastern Seaboard - Boston, Philadelphia, New York, Baltimore, Charlotte, Atlanta, Miami has a rail system - most expanding. If Dulles Rail doesn't go beyond the airport, trafficic from Loudon to the Beltway will come to a grinding halt. Whether one likes it or not, Loudon is no longer a rural community. We are in this mess because years ago nobody had the foresight (actually didn't have a crystal ball) to plan rail out here - we HAD a perfect right of way - the W&OD - so let's not blow it this time. Frequent efficient rail service out to the Dulles Region & beyond will open up so many more opportunities, create jobs, help the environment, & help us save on gasoline and tolls. Will be nice to be able to go into DC without worrying about traffic and parking or getting back at night on a connecting bus route. As for Governor McDonnell, he's showing that when it comes to transportation & infrastructure he's a thinking conservative that recognizes that public investment in infrastructure is an economic engine.
Bob Bruhns June 28, 2012 at 04:48 PM
Where did I lie, John? Let's see the facts, Mr. Pen-Name Poster. Make up something good. Also I don't know who placed those flyers, and I don't know who knows anything about that. But I'll say this: with a billion and a half dollars of overcharge in this job, anything is possible.
John June 28, 2012 at 05:06 PM
Bob Your group created false documents. Fact. Dave larock openly organized this on his tax pig facebook page. The supervisors have proof of this. My real name is john. Still havent addressed the classless attack on supervisor volpe. John
Bob Bruhns June 28, 2012 at 05:37 PM
John, 1) Please try to get your facts straight. I am not a member of that group. 2) Wonderful, so you are using your first name as your pen name. Or so you say, anyway. 3) I made no classless attack on Supervisor Volpe, I am not a member of any group that made any such attack, and I would have to dig back to even find this purported attack. So you'll have to order somebody else around about that. Sorry, but if somebody else said or did something wrong, then they have to answer for it, not me. 4) I do think that falsely calling people liars and falsely associating other people with groups to which they do not belong, is despicable. Perhaps you'll identify yourself, so that people might know exactly who did that. Or perhaps not.
John June 28, 2012 at 06:22 PM
Bob I stand corrected. I was under the impression you were associated with the Tax Pig by previous comments. He is the person who falsified the documents at the Park/Ride lot. He is the person who chose to attack Supervisor Volpe at her church. Glad to hear your not associated with a classless group. Our views are not the same on this project. I'm with the 80% of the county who believe its needed and a must to continue to thrive/develop. But i'm also someone who has to commute east on a regular baissi. My name is John. Sorry you don't believe me. John
Janie Oldham June 29, 2012 at 06:49 AM
Why is Suzanne Volpe telling some people along the pro-metro supervisors that she's voting with them and then telling her base of supporters that she's anti metro. What's up with that? I have no respect for politicians like that because she's lying to one group or the other. I hope that our supervisors do the right thing and don't saddle us with this ridiculous, over priced, mess. I don't want my grandkids having to still pay for it!

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