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Virginia Attorney General Wants Rail To Dulles Project to Die

Cuccinelli says he hopes the rail to Dulles Airport project never happens.

 

While the three funding partners of the rail to Dulles Airport project are negotiating behind closed doors to settle their differences on the rising costs of phase 2, there's one state elected official who rather see the project killed.

Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli is getting attention for a WMAL radio interview last week when he said the project to extend rail from Reston's Wiehle Avenue Station (the end of Phase 1) to Dulles Airport and eastern Loudoun County is an "economic boondoggle." He predicted that the rising costs of the project's second phase will be a central campaign issue in Loudoun County's local elections. 

"I hope those folks [in Loudoun] elect an entire board who is committed to pulling out of phase 2 to kill it, because it is bad policy for Virginia," Cuccinelli said.

The attorney general said he hopes that phase 2 never gets built and criticized those involved for paying for the first phase that is "already two and a half times its original cost."

The MWAA board of directors in April voted to build an underground station at Dulles Airport, a decision that added $330 million to the cost of phase 2 that is now estimated to be $1 billion above the original $2.5 billion estimate.

Fairfax and Loudoun counties are sharing the cost of the rail project with MWAA, and leaders in those two jurisdictions are strongly against the underground station.

Fairfax County Board of Supervisors Chairwoman Sharon Bulova and Loudoun County Chairman Scott York have asked MWAA to reverse its decision and build an above-ground station. York's county board has threatened to stop funding the project because of MWAA's decision.

The three funding partners met behind closed doors on Friday to negotiate at the request of U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood. LaHood met with the project's stakeholders last week and gave them 30 days to hammer out a finance plan for phase 2.

Cuccinelli said that Loudoun County paid for an economic study of the rail to Dulles project and "the cost benefit just is not there." 

"It's a rip off," he said.

That study, however, showed the county could generate $234 million in revenue by 2040 from economic development near the new rail stations.

Cuccinelli also criticized MWAA's insistence that the contractor hires union-only contracts for anyone working on the project. The attorney general said MWAA will be violating Right to Work laws if it requires union-only contracts.

WMAL Interview

Related Topics: Attorney General, MWAA, Scott York, ken cuccinelli, rail to dulles, and sharon bulova

Cynde Sears

3:42 pm on Monday, June 6, 2011

Mr. Cuccinelli, Please come drive on the Dulles Toll Rd. from Rte. 28 to Tyson's weekday mornings at 8 a.m. Preferably on rainy days. Or take a bus from the Herndon Monroe Park and Ride all the way to Falls Church, then take a train downtown -- see how wonderful that is, since the first several miles on the bus are along the toll road with all the other traffic (read: gridlocked) and the train is likely to be crowded, overheated, and smelly. Repeat at least 100 times (a few months of daily commutes). Then come back and tell us that the Metro extension is a "boondoggle." That is, if you haven't keeled over from a stress-related heart attack by the end of your visit!

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Leigh Johanneck

5:34 pm on Monday, June 6, 2011

I agree with you that it is not a "boondoggle" by definition, because it is necessary as a transportation alternative. I do think what he might have been trying to focus on and I have to agree with is the grossly excessive spending that is going on which will end up hitting us all in the pocket books...i.e. "economic boondoggle" was what he said. Metro is already $broke$ with so many maintenance issues (over 100 escalators out-of-service in recent article) that projects while desperately necessary cannot be allowed to have unlimited budgets. If they do, we all know that politicians love to spend other peoples money.

Frank Sogandares

4:12 pm on Monday, June 6, 2011

can I really add some photos to this article?

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Frank Sogandares

4:56 pm on Monday, June 6, 2011

but it clearly states "Add your photos & videos"

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Rob Whitfield

6:50 pm on Monday, June 6, 2011

Dan, you forgot about THE DULLES TOLL ROAD USERS, MAJORITY FUNDING PARTNERS FOR DULLES RAIL - barred from Ray LaHood's "closed door" meetings and seen by Delegate Plum, Senator Howell, Chairman Bulova, Supervisor Hudgins and others as a never ending source of transit project manna.

The Loudoun County Dulles Rail Phase 2 fiscal impact study showed $235 million in revenue benefits by 2040. The study did not consider the $20 to $30 million annual WMATA Silver Line subsidy needed for operations and maintenance. A $20 million WMATA annual subsidy there will cost $600 million by 2040.

Add the projected $5,000 to $10,000 annual Dulles Toll Road tolls to be paid with AFTER TAX MONEY. Only Reston liberals can justify such robbery. Tolls for Loudoun commuters will total over $5 billion in the next 50 years. For Fairfax County, over $10 billion in tolls is possible, now that LaHood has said that further Dulles Rail federal funding is unlikely.

For all Fairfax taxpayers, Dulles Rail maybe just as devastating because of the gap between the $730 million to be collected from the two rail tax districts and the potential $1.13 billion Fairfax County share of Dulles Rail -potentially more if Loudoun County pulls out of Phase 2.

We won't know the Dulles Rail fiscal impact on Fairfax County taxpayers for several months because Fairfax County Board Democrats voted recently not to study the consequences of Dulles Toll Road toll increases. How's that for dumb politics!

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Ryan C Roth

8:06 am on Tuesday, June 7, 2011

Wondering what the Attorney General has to do with this issue? Wouldn't surprise me in the least to see Cucci run for some other office soon, as that has always been his real intention. This attorney general is far too political for my taste. And to think of the amount of money we've spent to further some of his agendas, we'll I guess that can be saved for later

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Private Person

10:22 am on Tuesday, June 7, 2011

And you don't think the coalition of Reston liberals, who want nothing more than to dig ever deeper into your pockets, for yet more socialist financial boondoggles, are not far too political?

$1 billion of our federal dollars and billions more in toll-road quarters have already been committed, and likely spent, to finance this financial (and aesthetic) boondoggle and not a single passenger has boarded any Silver (really should be GOLD) line rail car.

There's at least a $100 million unfunded transportation mess brewing for what will likely be the interim (if not permanent) terminus just at dangerous, congested Wiehle Avenue and If I recall correctly, not a single parking space is being built at any of the Tysons stations.

Meanwhile, the supervisor goes on her delusional journey reducing capacity with road "diets" claiming it's too difficult for her to reach out to seek opposing citizen inputs (which she's legion for ignoring in any case). It's certainly not difficult at all for her to find me for jury duty or to collect her ever increasing taxes she's levying on all of us.

Mike Rand

9:06 am on Tuesday, June 7, 2011

I dont support AG Cuccinelli on any of his platform as he really is just a male version of Sarah Palin. However, he is right on the issue of improper funding and the current cost analysis of the Dulles extension. The same thing will happen in Ashburn that happened in Gaithersberg, Plano Texas, and Hillsboro Oregon,when the train extension opens. Some will ride it to work, but the freeways will stay jammed, while many others will ride OUT of the big cities to find new folks to rob, murder and harass. Im sure Metro will even give the Indigient free ride tokens so they can follow the cash to the vaults of Loudon County. Metro is not cost conscious and new lines need to be self sufficient immediately, not in 30 years! Where do I see Developer Fees as part of the cost equation? If the federal government wants an
Intermodel Transportation model for visitors to Washington DC, then THEY should come up with the funding.

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Private Person

10:32 am on Tuesday, June 7, 2011

So you DO support the AG on at least one of his planks.

Anyone who, for even a nanosecond, thinks that his rail line will do anything but increase congestion and lengthen traffic delays is just mad.

Economic benefit, maybe, but we must not forget the rapidly decaying existing metro-rail system and the source of funds to rebuild that will come from: three guesses, and the first two don't count.

For those of a certain age who recall the Dulles white elephant days when just a few planes a day took off from the then distant airport -- it took the better part of three decades for the the promised financial benefits to begin to appear. The irony, of course, is that it's far cheaper to fly from BWI than Dulles and many of us routinely travel to BWI to take those cheaper flights.

Someone, not in government, of course, should get smart and start a cheap flight from Dulles to BWI.

Paula

9:33 am on Tuesday, June 7, 2011

Wow, clealry this man Cuccinelli isn't in touch with the traffic nightmare that has existed in Northern Virginia for decades now Clearly he does not give a crap about the tens of thousands of people who are stuck on these roads wasting countless hours of their lives. People love to point fingers and place blame -- but there's plenty of blame to go around for the current horrible state of traffic around here. Here is my message to Cuccinelli: give us some solid ideas about how to fix transporation and traffic problems, or shut the hell up.

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Private Person

10:39 am on Tuesday, June 7, 2011

Perhaps so, but by your own comment, what transportation project over the past decades has resulted in any lasting relief? Been on I-66 west of Manassas lately?

Tried to get anywhere near Maryland (and BWI's cheap flights) any day between say 2 and 8 PM via the Beltway?

Sat motionless in a darkened, stiflingly hot orange line train car stuck under the Potomac recently? Praying for even a garbled announcement to know that someone is still driving the train?

See the congestion on the DTR yesterday at 6:45 PM?

Tried maneuvering west on 50 to get home or to save 30 cents on gas?

Mike Rand

9:44 am on Tuesday, June 7, 2011

I agree that traffic is unacceptable in Loudoun and Fairfax. However I am also a realist and call the shots with both eyes opened to the truth of the matter and how these things play out historically. Most of us out here want rail service, but really only so that everyone else rides the train, so that we can use the roads traffic free in our Escalades and Excursions. Traffic is no better today even in Portland Oregon, the mecca of all public transportation systems. It was 1 hour to drive 8 miles in rush hour in 1985 when the trains turned on, and it is even a longer wait today. I will NOT ride those Metro trains even today with my children as I want them to live until adulthood. Let the people who want to use train service pay for it thru fares and/or developer fees.
Additionally, I do not want a train line that exists to my back door on Ryan Road so that some project living miscreant can take a free ride out to my house so that they can steal something to fence for drugs.

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john klein

10:10 am on Tuesday, June 7, 2011

The Dulles Toll Road traffic nightmare, as some have labeled the commute, must continue in order that the fund to pay for the construction, maintenance, and administration costs of the Silver Line to Loudon County, with a drop off at Dulles Airport.

If you think things are bad now, wait until you have to pay over $20.00 a day just to sit and wait longer in traffic in 2020, without any say in how your money is spent by the MWAA Board.

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JBecker

1:22 pm on Tuesday, June 7, 2011

Our Attorney General enjoys the privilege of having a limosine drive him from his home in Northern Va. to his office in Richmond daily at taxpyers' expense. Apparently he has no reason to worry about the traffic like the rest of us. I wonder if he realizes that many would consider the expense of his personal solution to his transportation needs excessive. The rest of us don't have such privileges or such disregard of the cost of our privileges.

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Private Person

1:32 pm on Tuesday, June 7, 2011

How is it that a, presumably chauffeur-driven, limousine is able to avoid traffic in northern Virginia?

Bill

1:45 pm on Tuesday, June 7, 2011

Well the AG is from the Sully District of FFX CO. The difference between him and you is he believes in saving the tax payers money and not doing things that will bankrupt us in a bad economic time.

Reston is the most fiscally unconservative district probably in the country.

County Housing owns almost every apartment building in the Reston, and we have less desirables coming from 75 different nations to Reston for our hand outs. The schools are overwelmed with these people looking for them to raise there kids. You can't even enjoy the Town Center because those same people send there unsupervised kids there to be chips of the old block. We have homeless sleeping in every patch of woods because we put in the homeless shelter. We have constant robberies on trails. Because the philosophy seems to be come here will feed you, cloth you, house you, raise your kids for you and then you can victimize us.

How bout you all let me keep some of my own money and take care of my own family!

Im glad the AG sees things my way, Keep up the good work!

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Karen Goff

4:24 pm on Tuesday, June 7, 2011

Bill, I think every one of those examples are huge exaggerations.

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Private Person

4:42 pm on Tuesday, June 7, 2011

Not all of them. The Fairfax County Redevelopment and Housing Authority is the largest landlord in the county owning more rental housing units than any other entity. None of the units is tax-producing as the authority does not pay property taxes to the county. Meanwhile, some of the residents in these units earn in excess of $215,000.

http://patherrity.com/issues/

...the Fairfax County government had become one of the county’s largest landlords and was subsidizing housing for families making over $100,000 dollars a year. After I exposed this wasteful program to the public, the Board unanimously voted to de-fund it in last year’s budget. Read about my efforts here:

Fairfax County is County’s Largest Landlord

More Problems with the Penny

Buying Foreclosed Homes is a Bad Idea

More Problems with the Housing Penny – Wedgewood

The authority/county recently spent about $50,000,000 (maybe $60 million?) to buy (dilapidated) Cameron Crescent in Reston and it owns or manages at least three entire complexes in Reston as well as owning units in many other condominiums.

RestonPlease

2:15 pm on Tuesday, June 7, 2011

Dear Private Person, it seems to me that the point JBecker is making is not that the AG is able to avoid traffic--but that he is presumably riding in a cool, comfortable, quiet, chauffeur-driven limousine--I think most people would not mind some traffic congestion if they had this luxury.

And, who knows, maybe he is getting a police escort and is in fact avoiding all or most of the congestion!

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Private Person

2:34 pm on Tuesday, June 7, 2011

I don't disagree -- we all certainly prefer cool, quiet, comfortable commuting. That's a major reason why I avoid Metro -- it's rarely cool, it's never quiet and it's often very uncomfortable; however, I presume that during that journey the AG, like most other executives using such services, is working and may be, in fact, conducting meetings, and transporting others with him on that journey.

Nevertheless, this thread is rather off topic and should proceed elsewhere or be dismissed.

The issue here is cancelling the Dulles rail project. I do not think that the AGs' commuting particulars will lessen traffic congestion (or cost) for anyone any more than the Dulles rail project will. Its construction over the past years has, in fact, substantially worsened congestion and is creating one of the ugliest of the ugly architecturally speaking in Tyson's Corner.

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RestonPlease

3:18 pm on Tuesday, June 7, 2011

Well, I hope the AG is working since his luxury commute is on the taxpayer's dime.

As for the Dulles Rail project causing congestion, it is simply a fact that a large construction project, public or private is going to worsen congestion during the construction phase (particularly a transit-oriented project).

By the way, Tyson's Corner has never been, in my opinion, an architectural gem--and while I had hoped for underground stations at Tyson's to permit a better development flow, it will largely be the investment and development decisions taken by commercial property owners in Tyson's Corner that will dictate the ultimate architectural aesthetics of that area.

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Karen Goff

4:49 pm on Tuesday, June 7, 2011

Private Person - Are you Pat Herrity? Because you should ID yourself as such if you are going to direct us to his website. Wouldn't you want voters to know that?

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Karen Goff

4:50 pm on Tuesday, June 7, 2011

Or when you say "My efforts" is that just directly from Herrity's site. I am confused.

Rob Whitfield

6:13 pm on Tuesday, June 7, 2011

Karen, many people including me read Pat Herrity's website to discover what is happening at the Fairfax Board because Democrats there often obscure how much County taxpayer money is being wasted.

Today the BOS voted on financing the hopelessly uneconomic $100+ million Wiehle Avenue Station garage. Who knows what parking rates will be charged? Congestion there may double the time it takes to travel by auto within Reston for many, if not most, during peak hours.

Former State Senator Cuccinelli used to drive to Richmond in a very ancient (1994?) Dodge Intrepid when he lived in Centreville. He moved 2+ years ago to reduce his commuting time to Richmond.

Ken has been the only steadfastly outspoken politician alerting the public on economic and financial problems facing Dulles Rail -see his August 2005 Washington Times article. Why is it that Restonians have not questioned Ken Plum about his conflict of interest resulting from his role as Chairman of Dulles Corridor Rail Association, funded largely by Tysons Corner landowners? Or why has Supervisor Cathy Hudgins not recused herself from voting on Fairfax Board decisions made to benefit WMATA, whose Board she now chairs? What about the multiple roles of Patty Nicoson in heading the Reston Master Plan Update Task Force while serving as Executive Director of DCRA?

I respect the public service of both Democrats and Republicans. It is time for Reston to be led by accountable politicians who give us the facts not fantasies.

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Private Person

7:11 pm on Tuesday, June 7, 2011

Yes, indeed, this cogently refocuses us on (some of) the more troubling ethical issues we face.

Thank you, Mr. Whitfield.

Private Person

7:08 pm on Tuesday, June 7, 2011

I am not Pat Herrity and claim no affiliation with him now or in the past.

All of the text beneath the URL is from Mr. Herrity's website -- a fact that anyone here can, and should, verify -- and the facts/statements contained within his website can be easily verified as well.

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Karen Goff

7:18 pm on Tuesday, June 7, 2011

Private person- I wasn't accusing you of anything, I was just confused as to the statement "my writing". I get it now. Just linking there. Thanks.

Private Person

7:14 pm on Tuesday, June 7, 2011

And after all, why is there a constant reminder on the lower left corner of my browser asking me to read more in government: "Officials Mum on Second Rail Meeting"?

What are "the officials" hiding?

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David Barry

10:38 pm on Tuesday, June 7, 2011

Two points.

1. On the congestion issue, the environmental impact statement for the line that has an intermediate stop at Dulles stated that congestion on the Dulles Toll Road would increase more if Metro were built than if it was not. That is because of the extra density of development that was given to landowners to convince them to support the very special tax district. Now of course, many want to increase the density FAR above that level to a much much higher level. This would seem to increase congestion even more.

2. Fairfax County Schools and other organizations are saving big bucks over previous estimates for new construction and renovations, due to current economic conditions. Why is it then that costs on the Metro extension are going up and up again and again?? Shouldn't they be able to save on the previous estimates like the school system?

3. Bonus point(s): I am not Pat Herrity, nor am I Karen Goff.

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Private Person

8:55 am on Wednesday, June 8, 2011

At the rate we are going, this new line's cost could exceed the construction cost of the entire existing metro-rail system. Yes, those are 1970 and 1980 dollars, but the point is that construction costs are decreasing nationwide and the cost of building this line should be following that trend.

The liberal "officials" who have taken many decades to get this line built severely low-balled all cost estimates the line to get it approved, the voodoo economics of this deal boggle the mind, and I think we will be paying big bucks for it and maintaining the rest of the metro-rail system for a long time regardless of whether the 2nd segment is built. It's too late to cancel the first segment, but there's still time to kill the 2nd.

Stealth Ops

9:42 am on Wednesday, June 8, 2011

I have not seen a single article here that is favorable to Republicans or something objective about Democrats. Obviously this website (or editor) has an agenda.

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Karen Goff

10:02 am on Wednesday, June 8, 2011

Stealth Sniper - as the editor of this website, I take offense to that.
My agenda is to report the news, not to be critical of Democrats or favorable to Republicans on any topic.
We are mostly focused on Reston. Since the main sticking point on Metro is Phase 2 to the airport, we have regional people who are looking into the costs and future and big picture of Phase 2.
You are welcome to voice your criticisms of the Phase 2 costs in a letter to the editor or in this space.

Stealth Ops

10:07 am on Wednesday, June 8, 2011

I agree you need to report the news, but to be critical to both, Democrats and Republicans (or any others). Why don't you focus on what has been commented here by Private Person, Bill and others? If you're focused on Reston, then look for what is in it's best interest.

I'm sure you get quite a number of emails out there from the general public and yet you may just report on very few.

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Karen Goff

10:18 am on Wednesday, June 8, 2011

The beauty of online journalism is that your comments are here, front and center, creating a conversation with the community about this issue. That is not something that needs to be "reported" because everyone has access to read it and discuss with one another. That is where websites differ from newspapers, which are one-way communication.
Actually, I get very (perhaps no) emails on this topic, but lots of comments to stories that everyone can see.

Stealth Ops

10:17 am on Wednesday, June 8, 2011

And just to name a few...

1) Why spend millions of dollars on road diets? Let's focus on making the improvements we need to the increased traffic in Soapstone and Lawyers that will come by 2013 and beyond once Metro starts operating.
2) Why is Fairfax County spending millions of dollars on public housing, yet they can't manage their properties for sure.
3) Why is Supervisor Hudgins voting on issues that benefit WMATA when she's the chair of that board?

I mean, if we make a big stink about issues like the Reston Association's DRB, why not go after the ones whose actions have far more long term consequences that don't do the public any good?

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Private Person

10:51 am on Wednesday, June 8, 2011

Reporting is one thing, and your byline is on many articles (or whatever they are called in today's terms) here, so I think you are doing (and being compensated to do) that.

Editing and moderating is quite another. It's no different than the WaPo.com which often gets thousands of comments on reported, by-lined articles. Yes there is still an inked dead-tree edition churned out every day ( with more and more errors every day ), unlike here. With declining circulation, perhaps the printed newspapers will be a quaint memory in due course. Let's not forget, though, that the Internet did not work well on 9-11 and the Post printed a extra that day. First time I can ever recall getting two WaPos in the same day and I read every, well edited, word in both editions.

Commenters here, just like at the Post's properties, are not empowered to post original articles, which may be fine, but it's a distortion to call this on-line journalism creating conversations.

But I digress; none of this should diffuse the unfolding costly debacle called the metro silver line, and it should be killed.

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Karen Goff

11:16 am on Wednesday, June 8, 2011

Therin lies the argument, Private Person.

WaPo has a staff of hundreds. Reston Patch has a staff of ONE. Therefore, I am paid to write, report, edit, make contacts in the community, shoot photos and videos, respond to breaking news, post annoucements of community events, carry on conversations with folks like you, formulate enterprise story ideas, make sure other folks are keeping it civil on this board. Most days, that's just my list before 10 a.m. So I will work on bringing down MWAA as soon as have sec, OK?

Of course conversations are not a replacement for journalism, but they get the conversation started, and that leads to a look at what the community is talking about.

Bob Bruhns

3:39 pm on Wednesday, June 8, 2011

I am happy to see that this overpriced boondoggle known as Dulles Rail has come to the attention of Virginia's Attorney General, and that he sees it for what it is: a ripoff.

Now, if people would see through the smokescreen of the Dulles station, and recognize that the whole project is robbery... well, that would be even better.

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Private Person

8:36 pm on Wednesday, June 8, 2011

I am here to help on the MWAA bring-down; holler when you are ready. And, I think Mr. Whitfield has suggested some very compelling leads -- enterprise? Perhaps not, but interesting and certain to draw eyeballs and comments.

I am interested to know how WMATA plans to fund desperately needed renovations on the legacy metro-rail system, and how the existing nearly-at-capacity orange line Potomac tunnel will accommodate all of the new line's traffic.

Your writing/editing displays erudition, and I compliment you on your one-person efforts.

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Karen Goff

9:22 pm on Wednesday, June 8, 2011

Thanks and thanks. And keep reading - we are looking into lots of Metro/MWAA stuff.

tina

8:32 am on Thursday, June 9, 2011

I say kill Phase II. It's going to go way over budget and the taxpayers are going to foot the bill. Union only contracts? Is that legal?

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Bob Bruhns

10:53 am on Thursday, June 9, 2011

Somebody made up some cost figures, and claimed that an underground station at Dulles Airport would cost $300 million more than an above-ground station.

But this supposed $300 million dollar difference in cost has to be a lie. Take a look - the 1/2 mile tunnel that was recently built in Tysons Corner, in very difficult conditions, only cost $85 million - and the 7-level underground garage now being built in Reston only costs $93.1 million - PUT TOGETHER, the total cost is less than $180 million. And then subtract the cost of the above-ground nonsense (1/4 mile from the air terminal) that our leaders have been tricked into demanding, and the numbers make no sense whatsoever. So what is this $300 million dollar nonsense?

Why is a tunnel so much more expensive at the airport? The numbers don't add up, and NOBODY is asking about that - not the government, not the news media, nobody. Something very strange is going on. This is a big play-act, and I have to think that our leaders are either in on it, or they are being led around by their noses by their policy wonks or party leaders. It's time to think outside of the box they are handing us.

The issue is not whether one station is built above or below ground at Dulles airport, the issue is the ridiculous cost figures that we have been handed. This country can not afford such expensive transit, and the insanity of the numbers at Dulles Airport should make us stop and demand answers NOW.

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Mykle Lyons

11:25 am on Thursday, June 9, 2011

That is a messy question. There is an Executive Order that is rescinded and reinstated depending on who wins the White House in a particular election.
"Section 14(b) of the Taft-Hartley Act goes further and authorizes individual states (but not local governments, such as cities or counties) to outlaw the union shop and agency shop for employees working in their jurisdictions".
And here os another link:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/ExecutiveOrderUseofProjectLaborAgreementsforFederalConstructionProjects/

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Rob Whitfield

2:30 pm on Thursday, June 9, 2011

We lack some fundamental facts about Phase 2 because of MWAA's ongoing campaign of non-disclosure. Worse, some politicians are distorting facts on Dulles Rail matters.

The Patch article on Tuesday night's meeting with Delegate Plum and State Senator Janet Howell omitted mention that the Federal Transit Adminstration rejected Phase 2 funding in 2002 when projected costs were $1.8 billion. Also, without a public hearing or referendum, MWAA intends for 75% of Phase 2 funding to be paid by Dulles Toll Road users. MWAA toll revenue forecasts today vastly exceed figures issued by MWAA in late 2006 and 2007 or in its 2009 bond prospectus.

As mentioned before, with the exception of Ken Cuccinelli, few politicians have spoken out about Dulles Rail financial problems. I called in to WTOP "Ask the Governor" program on November 30, 2010 and asked Governor McDonnell "What alternatives to using Dulles Toll Road revenues have you considered for funding Phase 2?" He said that he would ask his Transportation Secretary Sean Connaughton to investigate the matter. Six months later, we have yet to hear any proposal from the Governor to assist Northern Virginians on Dulles Rail.

While in Richmond January 2011, I suggested to Connaughton that he allocate $1 billion from the $4 billion transportation plan to pay part of Phase 2 costs. No response! Last month I asked Connaughton "Will Virginia provide credit enhancement to MWAA bonds to reduce costs to DTR users?" He said no. More to come.

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Mike Rand

3:33 pm on Thursday, June 9, 2011

This is the best and most accurate, as well as non judgemental, reply posted so far. Thank you Rob!

Barbara Glakas

3:34 pm on Thursday, June 9, 2011

Our Attorney General should be us figure out how to make this metro project a success, instead of trying to kill a project that may help promote public transportation and spur economic development in our area.

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Rob Whitfield

5:50 pm on Thursday, June 9, 2011

Barbara:

Population densities in western Fairfax County and eastern Loudoun County are under half the level needed to comply with the Virginia Department of Rail and Public Transportation's November 2008 design standard for "heavy rail," adapted from the 2004 Federal Transit Administration manual.

It is not for the Attorney General to help "us figure out how to make this metro project a success." The AG and Inspector General of the Virginia General Assembly should investigate why Governor Kaine, former Fairfax County Board Chairman Connolly and other politicians have foisted this infeasible, uneconomic project on a helpless public. Dulles Rail has the potential of becoming the biggest Ponzi scheme in Virginia history.

We need to support and promote expansion of flexible variable route demand based bus transit service for our lower density suburbs using PRIVATE sector competition for WMATA's Metrobus and the Fairfax Connector. Loudoun County Transit and Mark McGregor's Virginia Regional Transit both offer good service at far lower cost than WMATA.

Agreed, we need to spur economic development in our area. I once volunteered with Herndon Cchamber to help do just that. We must reject the notions of those who claim that the only path to future economic success is 5.0 FAR high rise development. Lets find consensus on what livable communities really are in the suburbs. Replace the "pie in the sky" ideas of "smart growth" advocates about what is good for us.

Barbara Glakas

7:04 pm on Thursday, June 9, 2011

My comment about how the AG should “help us figure out how to make it a success” was a figure of speech. My point is that I do not think it is appropriate for our state AG to make public comments such as: "I hope those folks [in Loudoun] elect an entire board who is committed to pulling out of phase 2 to kill it,” throwing darts at the project from afar and suggesting to the people of Loudoun who they should elect. If he has something legitimate to investigate, in his role as and AG, then he should consult with Gov. McDonnell and our Secretary of Transportation and then do it. Otherwise, I don’t see how his comments constructively contribute to the metro conversation.

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Private Person

8:03 pm on Thursday, June 9, 2011

Unless you were attempting to express sarcasm, that's not much of a figure of speech. In fact, it's hard to take that comment any other way but literally.

And, public figures are also citizens, and in this case a tax payer, entitled to their express their opinions, including recommending whom fellow citizens and neighbors should elect.

The AG Investigating some matter is an official act resulting in, among other things, significant expense, an official opinion and prosecution if the merits warrant it. Were the electors to elect a board favorable to killing this boondoggle, not only would the project costs be avoided, but the AG's investigatory expenses may also be reduced or eliminated. This is a definitely in the public interest.

In the case of this line's extension, it's becoming increasingly clear that the project will, and should, fail on the lack of its merits (the same lack of merits since the 1960s) and the outrageous costs we will all be forced to pay for decades to come with little, if any, quality of life accruing to those who will be forced to pay should the 2nd phase proceed.

Let's stop the madness now and kill this silver-line monster extension.

james gilley

10:21 am on Friday, June 10, 2011

The problem is that the Fairfax County supervisors used all the available money to create a detour through Tyson's Corner which was not a part of the originial plan. The feds are still on tap for the $900 million which was 45% of the originial cost of the rail line to Dulles following the toll road/Dulles AP access road which went by Tyson's to the North West. When Fairfax decided to "dogleg" it through Tyson's is when the cost exploded to $5 billion (now $7 billion). The feds said they would not contribute to this dramaticaly expanded plan to redevelop Tysons using the Metro. And that is where they are today and there is no hope they will do more.
So as a major recession and financial crisis unfolds we may be left with Metro to Tysons for decades to come. And Gerald Connelly who was chair of the Supervisors and an employee of a Tysons located company who benifited greatly from the "Dog-Leg" through Tysons will be held responsible. And if people do not use the toll road where will the money come from. I noted that less than 3% of the passengers at BWI use rail to get there. I live in Reston and it is nonsense to think I will take the rail to go to the airport. I will simply go and get on the Dulles Access Road and drive to the airport. It would take me an hour longer to take the rail.
So it is a house of cards created in great part by Gerald Connelly and it will come tumbling down for our country has over spent on every thing to the point this will be considered a joke.

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John Whitten

10:58 am on Friday, June 10, 2011

I would like to know why the "Rail to Dulles" project is being built on the backs of the 267 commuters? Since the beneficiaries of the project are the folks in Washington D.C., why can't THEY fund it?

Secondly, since the 267 commuters apparently ARE funding the project, WHY do they have to be CRAMMED into the outside lanes on 267 and can't use those FOUR wonderfully VACANT lanes right smack dab in the middle?

Okay, so people have to catch their planes on-time, I'm good with that-- reserve a lane for them-- now, what about the other THREE lanes that are just sitting there? In the morning they could be put to good use for people going toward D.C., and in the afternoon for people coming from D.C.... but NOOO... even though we're paying for it-- AND aren't really the ultimate beneficiaries-- we STILL have to suck it up and sit in the traffic jams it causes.

I say B.S. to that !!! People wise up and have a chat with your representatives about their so-called "representation". Specifically, ask 'em WHO they're representing...?? (And then ask 'em who they'll be representing after the next election...)

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$$$$s

12:45 pm on Wednesday, June 29, 2011

Let's see, an open ended contract, with no fixed price, the govt' can send whatever bill it decides to Loudoun County, add union labor costs (cutting out most of Virginia firms, since we are right to work state) AND the up front costs are CURRENTLY estimated to equal the economic development benefits that will take decades to recoup-- and we all know the up front costs will probably double and triple by the time they finish planning this monster...

OPT OUT now, Loudoun. WE cannot live with the ridiculous terms being foisted on us. Already Loudoun pays the highest property taxes in the whole southeastern region.... we cannot pay more! And the toll road fees are supposed to pay for the rest of the construction costs, so Loudoun pays twice... WRONG! Bad deal, we do not need this, busses will work just as well, only cost effective....

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Private Person

1:58 pm on Thursday, June 30, 2011

Vote for change --- the liberals in office are nothing more than robbers -- have you seen the five-star "low-income" housing our tax dollars are funding?

http://bit.ly/klvsdf

It's just outrageous.

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