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Reston Association Still Talking Tennis

More discussion - and a field trip - but still no decision to put indoor tennis to referendum.

 

With time running out to put a proposed indoor tennis facility to public referendum in 2012, Reston Association CEO Milton Matthews and Parks and Recreation Director Larry Butler are doing their homework.

The two recently took a field trip to Columbia, MD, where they checked out Columbia Association's indoor tennis facilities.

Columbia Association operates two indoor tennis facilities that feature five courts in a freestanding building and four in a bubble. The association also has 24 outdoor courts for its 85,000 members.

"They see indoor tennis as a strong part of the value to their community," Butler told the RA Board of Directors at a meeting on Oct. 27.

Reston, meanwhile, has nearly twice as many outdoor courts, but no indoor facilities. A 2005 survey commissioned by RA said that 25 percent of 3,000 members surveyed play tennis.

The idea of an indoor facility has been debated for several years. The latest proposal of a $3.8 million facility at Lake Newport has been discussed for over a year, and RA Board members said it would vote on putting it to referendum by the end of 2011.

Matthews came away from the scouting mission with six questions for board members to consider. Among them - is there one factor that would cause you to vote "yes" or "no" to send indoor tennis to a referendum? What benefit would indoor tennis provide to the entire community? Would the board expect an indoor facility to cover all of its operating costs?

The board discussed some of the questions, but made no decisions, at the meeting last week. It will cost a proposed $75,000 to put the proposal to referendum.

One scenario discussed at the meeting: rather than borrowing $4 million to pay for construction, could Reston Association get developers  - who will surely build in Reston as the Metro gets closer to its 2013 completion - pay for indoor tennis with proffers?

"In addition to proffers, could we partner with an organization who wanted to come in and offer them a lease?" said RA president Kathleen Driscoll McKee.

Another "what if" asked by at-large director Andy Sigle: Three studies have shown that member assessments will only rise about $5. If RA ends up paying for the facility, what happens if it ends up costing more?

In any case, the board remains somewhat divided on the issue.

"There are a lot of benefits if we have indoor tennis," said vice president Paul Thomas. "There are some things that remain a concern to me - one is the Northenmost location in the community; one is clearly the financial outlay now. I would rather have it centrally located and free. I don't think it is overly optimistic to think we could get it paid for [by proffers]."

Lake Anne/Tall Oaks Director Ken Knueven says it would be wiser for RA to spend money on existing and aging facilities that need improvements.

"The infrastructure is 40 years old and needs attention," said Kneuven. "I know we are thinking of going into significant debt. If you are going to spend money, should you spend it on existing facilities? This looks like a bad investment. It looks like creating something hoping someone would buy it."

Apartment rep Amanda Andere agreed that she is also concerned about "stretching the budget beyond where we can go."

Treasurer John Higgins pointed out the value indoor tennis will add to the community.

"I view indoor tennis as our gazebo," he said. "I don't own a gazebo, but people in Reston build them...but don't use them. I want indoor tennis in Reston, but I am not going to use it. I want a potential buyer of a home in Reston to say 'that's neat, I want to live here.

"We've talked about it, it's about time," he added. "Let's put it to referendum."

That statement met with applause from the dozen or so tennis players in the audience.

In other RA news, the board voted to spend $12,000 to improve Brown's Chapel Park Baseball Field No. 3. More field improvements are expected to come in 2012-13.

Related Topics: Indoor Tennis and Reston Association

Susan Burwell

3:34 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011

I concur with Ken..."The infrastructure is 40 years old and needs attention," said Kneuven. "I know we are thinking of going into significant debt. If you are going to spend money, should you spend it on existing facilities? This looks like a bad investment. It looks like creating something hoping someone would buy it."

Second, will the facility be available ONLY for indoor tennis, or can it be used for other non-sport activities such as receptions, community events, parties, or movies?

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Karen Goff

5:27 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011

That was one of the things discussed the other night - could they add a community room or throw parties on the tennis courts? Just a discussion, though.

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John Farrell

5:32 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011

There is a meeting room in the current design for the tennis facility.

John Farrell

3:40 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011

Correction, Karen, the $12,000 will take one of the only 2 Babe Ruth 90' fields that RA owns and convert it to use for Little Leaguers whose arms aren't yet strong enough to play on a 90' field. This program is only meant for 13 year olds to play on for one year. The last count was that only 48 kids can't make the throw from 3rd to 1st on a 90' field.

In contrast, Babe Ruth kids and Senior Babe Ruth kids play on the same 90' field for 5+ years.

There was another field this 13 year olds program could have gone to: South Lakes Drive Park. The chairman of the FCPA had committed to resod the infield and build a pitchers mound for this one year program at South Lakes Drive Park. Somehow that wasn't good enough for Reston Little League.

Now any hope of restoring a Reston based Babe Ruth program is that much more remote. Reston had its own Babe Ruth program as recently as 5 years ago. Reston Little League abandoned it and the boys have to travel to Herndon to play Babe Ruth. It's a shame the RA Board and RYB aren't interested in re-establishing a Reston Babe Ruth program.

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Karen Goff

5:28 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011

Yes, a more detailed baseball field story is coming soon.

Tom Butts

9:42 am on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

I guess I just don't understand Reston. I've lived here for almost 10 years and for the life of me, in an age where many people are just scraping by, I can't understand why we're even considering this. Nothing that I've read so far has convinced me otherwise. There are so many more important ways to spend our funds.

BTW, I'm a tennis fan, too.

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Private Person

9:55 am on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

That's exactly the question that needs to be asked and answered. Reston is stuffed with low-income properties and residents -- few of whom likely pay the RA assessment, and likely don't use the facilities.

John Farrell

9:51 am on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

Considering that the current capital budget already has $1.7 million scheduled to be spent on renovating outdoor courts and the millions needed to refurbish the many lake intake structures, dams and outlet structures as our lakes approach their 40th anniversaries, its hard to find an extra $4 million in capital funds for an indoor facility for 1,200 tennis players out of a population of 58,000.

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Tina

12:19 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

I have to agree with Tom and John. Why are we even considering this amount of spending for such a specific project that the majority of Restion won't use. How about spending on things that are needed and beneficial to all.

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Tammi Petrine

2:58 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

I would like to know how much RA has ALREADY spent on the idea of indoor tennis with NO CLEAR INDICATION from the majority of stake holders that it is supported. I know there have been site and architectural plans in multiple iterations. Now we are being asked IF we want to have a referendum that would cost another $75,000?

That's a lot of dues funds on top of the huge amount already spent. Thank you to the members of the RA board who are holding the line on this "amenity." I support RA donating the land for the indoor tennis facility to the tennis lobby and letting them finance it independently. If it is possible for an indoor facility to be self-supporting, let it happen. But for RA to take on the burden of such a huge new infrastructure expenditure for such a tiny percentage of Restonians is unfair representation of dues paying homeowners by RA which is supposed to serve our best interests. Homeowners should control RA's actions; not vice versa.

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Andrew Ivovich

10:26 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

At the meeting I was quite upset as how Larry and Milton presented information from their trip to Columbia. From how I understand it on their website and from talking with my Columbia residents I know, they structure their fees quite different then RA. They are taxed based on their home value as a base assessment to upkeep the general open space areas. Just this fee is already higher then what most people in Reston pay (hard to say exactly what it costs since it is based on property value but someone in Columbia with a 300K valued house would pay over $700 a year). On top of that they offer memberships to the plethora of athletic facilities (indoor/outdoor tennis, golf, fitness gym, ice rink, skate park, batting cages) Columbia Association operates.

Overall I'm just trying to point out that they have a significantly higher cost to participate and also a different structure - those in Columbia who don't want to pay for indoor tennis or other costly facilities don't have to buy the additional membership on top of their CA taxes. I think visiting CA and viewing their facilities to get an idea of construction types is great but these differences make it hard to compare the use and participation of CA athletic facilities to the Reston Association. It is my expectation that a CEO and director of parks and recreation would do their homework better and present the facts clear manner. I fully support Ken's points and am glad he represents my interests as a Reston resident.

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Private Person

8:39 am on Wednesday, November 2, 2011

The Columbia (and many other planned-community) assessment and business models work well and should be how things are in Reston. The RA, of course, ignored the advice of its members, its consultants and missed that opportunity during its recent six-figure governing document restatement process.

The irony is that all of the low-income residents are forced to pay higher RA assessments (with many of those assessments being paid not by residents, but by taxpayers) while North Point mcmansions and millionaires pay a pittance for what are absolutely far better and better maintained facilities north of the toll road.

There are many, many private rec. facilities, including indoor tennis and swimming, within just a few miles of anywhere in Reston. These are private businesses that stimulate the economy, pay taxes, hire people and occupy rental properties.

This is the way of management first, governance second at the RA -- in other words, the tail is wagging the dog of the assessment-payers.

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John Farrell

12:30 pm on Wednesday, November 2, 2011

The change that Private Person advocates would require an amendment to the Master Docs through a referendum that met the minimum participation rules. Good luck with that.

Or Reston could become a city and RA could turn over it's facilities to the city government. Then the real estate taxes would pay for maintenance of the pools, tennis courts, ball fields and roads. And the RCIG would have to kick into that effort instead of freeloading.

RA would be left to enforce the covenants which could be done in less office space and for lower assessment.

Steve L

6:55 am on Wednesday, November 2, 2011

It would be interesting...to put an indoor tennis facility in South Reston!

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Private Person

8:33 am on Wednesday, November 2, 2011

Why?

The RA already has one pool in South Reston that it's closed and can't seem to figure out how to refurbish (with an "indefinite" hold on Hudgins' reports) and another one that was recommended to be closed by at least one very expensive consultant. What did the RA do? Ignored that advice and kept the pool open for 8 or 10 weeks a year for no better than a few hundred visitors. Epic Fail

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Steve L

9:42 am on Wednesday, November 2, 2011

To see if there is any effect on interaction between north and south Reston...especially when folks try cross over the toll road after work to meet their tennis pals only to find it takes an hour to do so, thus sparking another debate about more roads to get any use out of the facility :-)

Pat Williams

6:30 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011

We walk by the tennis courts at Northpointe every day or evening all year, and on all the beautiful days it's nice enough to take a walk, the tennis courts are empty. There are people enjoying the grassy "ball fields" at Brown's Chapel playing many different kinds of sports. Let's see Reston keep it's precious open space available for many uses by many cultures - by ALL its residents and dues-payers. Let's see a neutral RA staff member sit at the tennis courts and "ball" fields on random weekends, weekdays, and weeknights) and do a survey to show us the numbers and the wishes of Reston residents who pass by or use them, and then show us the results.

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Private Person

7:06 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011

And you certainly must notice the high-wattage lights brilliantly burning when no one is playing tennis. Wasting energy, burning kilowatts polluting the night sky, and wasting assessment dollars that could be refunded to the members, put to much better use or donated to one of the many causes dedicated to the helping the less fortunate among us.

Can't the RA install a device to stop the waste? A timer? A motion sensor? A card reader to turn the lights on when they are needed for people actually playing tennis? The lights are on tonight wasting money and precious natural resources, and we are sure there will be no one playing tennis on this dark, wet and soon to be stormy night.

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Frank Sogandares

9:37 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011

simply disgusting. deeply disturbing too.

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